Curse

Cebe · Aug 21, 2006, 09:22 AM // 09:22

Ok...I have played the Imperial Sanctum mission so many times now, and I enjoy it, so occaisonally I will go over there to see if anyone needs help...

There is one thins about the people playing this mission which really gets on my nerves...that is, the lack of knowledge about Shiro's skill, Meditation of the Reaper. I don't know if I'm preaching to the converted on this forum but I hope that some players may read this and learn something.

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Meditation of the Reaper

Skill. For 30 Seconds, Shiro meditates and absorbs the next 700 damage. When this skill ends, Shiro steals 20 health from all foes for each second this skill was active.

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The recurring problem with people fighting Shiro is that they don't kill him fast enough. Read it... You have 2 choices:

Either:

1. Everyone runs away for 30 seconds until he comes out of it. FAR away.

or

2. You deal him his 700 damage VERY quickly, if he is only meditating for 5 seconds, that's 100 health he will steal from everyone. Guildwiki suggests elementalists use an echoed Celestial Storm on him to bring him out fast.

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Disclaimer:
Sorry if people already know this, but from my experience it seems a lot of people really don't. Please feel free to correct me if I have made a mistake somewhere....this isn't a rant, I was only trying to inform a few people on this devastating skill.

Paperfly · Aug 21, 2006, 11:10 AM // 11:10

Massive mea culpa here - I was one of the zillions of misguided fools who thought Meditations was a stance. Oh, the tens of minutes I spent ordering Warriors to add Wild Blow to their lineup!

I'm positively embarrassed.

Kaguya · Aug 21, 2006, 11:21 AM // 11:21

Shiro does use a stance, Riposting Shadows. "Stance. For 20 seconds, Shiro shadow steps to the next foe that attacks him and attempts a return attack. If this attack hits, Riposting Shadows is renewed."

Common misunderstanding regarding the Meditation seems to be that all the damage you cause to him during the meditation, gets stolen when it ends. I've had a bunch of teams saying that if he uses meditation, everyone must stop attacking him. Which is dumb. Very dumb. Extremely dumb.

Ira Blinks · Aug 21, 2006, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Gale worked just fine for me...

Numa Pompilius · Aug 21, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Once Shiro enters Meditation you can't break it with anything except through doing 700 points of damage. It's a *skill*.

However, 700 damage isn't that much, not with 8 people pounding on him with all they've got, and him without any defence except his armor.

Keep Shiro blinded so he can't heal himself, kill the Shiro'ken as quickly as you can (to bring the banished guys back), and make sure everyone smacks Shiro with all they've got whenever he enters Meditation, and he'll go down quick enough.

Master Adamdk · Aug 21, 2006, 01:11 PM // 13:11

An alternative would be to take Diversion and keep using that on him, then he can't use his skill.

some guy · Aug 21, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

life stealing skills or a vamperic weapon upgrade dosen't coutn as damage, so you can keep on damaging him while he's in the meditation

Paperfly · Aug 22, 2006, 11:00 AM // 11:00

Quote:

life stealing skills or a vamperic weapon upgrade dosen't coutn as damage, so you can keep on damaging him while he's in the meditation

...But that's the point, you want to do as much damage as possible while he's using the skill. Ending it fast is the single safest way of dealing with it.

LiamR · Aug 22, 2006, 12:50 PM // 12:50

I used wild blow and it ended? As soon as i used it, i took 20 dmg from the stance. WTF?

Avarre · Aug 22, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Except it's a skill, not a stance.

falling demon · Aug 22, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58

knockdowns remove it, i used shove [E] and it removed it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ira Blinks

Gale worked just fine for me...

^^ proof

dj deviate · Oct 01, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01

easiest way i found was as soon as he does that use a knockdown skill and brings him striaght out of it so you can get back to giving him a kicking

alot of hammer skills work or shove

Cirian · Oct 03, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by falling demon

knockdowns remove it, i used shove [E] and it removed it

^^ proof

edit: looks like the KD method was er... nerfed.

RoadKill97 · Oct 03, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

I have tested Shove, Shock and Gale against Shiro on 1 vs 1 so no-one else would damage him (except Mhenlo). Knockdowns will not end Meditation of the Reaper.

Carinae · Oct 04, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38

It actually only takes 500 damage to end Meditation, not 700. But it steals 620 health from each nearby person when it ends, assuming it ran full course.

It has a range of about 2/3 compass range and recharges every 60 seconds.

I don't think it can be ended other than dealing 500 damage, or waiting it out.

mqstout · Oct 04, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55

As a recent thread I started similarly came to conclude: it's most unfortunate that they made the battle with Shiro gimmicky, requiring exactly one certain build to survive him.

Cebe · Oct 04, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

It actually only takes 500 damage

Not to be picky, but how do you know it only takes 500 damage to end Meditation of the Reaper?

This site, this site, and this site all appear to disagree and claim it is 700 damage.

(I was basing my original post on GuildWiki...which is generally kept up-to-date, to my knowledge)

Carinae · Oct 06, 2006, 05:55 AM // 05:55

Re-read your first link.

I concur with GWiki, as verified with a Soul Barbs + WW combo.

Plus, the skill icon when you are actually under Meditation, says 500 not 700.

Cirian · Oct 09, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadKill97

I have tested Shove, Shock and Gale against Shiro on 1 vs 1 so no-one else would damage him (except Mhenlo). Knockdowns will not end Meditation of the Reaper.

I had a peek at GuildWiki's discussion of the skill and it seems that while KD did work, it doesn't any more because KD made him too easy. So just do 500 damage (even though it says 700 in places) as quickly as possible when he activates it. Or run a long way away.

lennymon · Oct 09, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

while wild blow does not end his meditation, it does however end his stance (riposting shadows) and if your warrior is build correctly it'll do a significant amount of damage towards ending meditation.